The Metaverse Podcast - Metaverse Insights from a Banking Leader, with Lam Chee Kin of DBS Bank
Primer: DBS is Singapore’s leading consumer bank. What are their strategies concerning the Metaverse? Let’s find out from Lam Chee Kin, Group head of Legal and Compliance at DBS, in this episode of the Metaverse Podcast.
Background
Group head of Legal and Compliance at DBS Bank
Is a geek and gamer who has been exploring immersive worlds
Started out gaming with the TRS-80 computers
Web3, The Metaverse, And Immersive Reality
One definition of the metaverse is anchored on social media
Another definition of the metaverse is anchored on Web3/DeFi-denominated, blockchain-denominated alternate realities
Another version of the metaverse comes from games that are not Web3 or social media-centered
How Will These 3 Things Be Unified Together?
Is a believer in the social and psychological value of being able to experience things that are beyond our normal physical limitations
The metaverse is anchored on the human being being able to immerse himself in an alternate reality and all the potential benefits and risks it brings
Immersive reality enables people to experience sustainability-related initiatives in countries they would not normally visit or take risks they would not normally take because it is too dangerous
The 3 Pillars Of Immersion, Delivery, And Digital Assets
The primary factor driving the compelling nature of the metaverse is the idea of immersion
In an aging population context, we need to think about how people could experience life differently
Have to start from the perspective of what type of immersive content-driven experiences would be compelling to the largest number of human beings
“Imagine if people could experience the Star Wars universe in a fully realised digital alternate reality and acquire a lightsaber or an X-Wing Fighter. How cool would that be and being able to pass that X-Wing Fighter to your son?”
- Lam Chee Kin
The immersive experience not only has to be accessible physically, but also financially
The technology has yet to be miniaturised to an adequate level and is usable by a reasonable human being
Content-driven immersion is a function of time:
People creating immersive experiences
People coming up with the technology to deliver those experiences
The third pillar is digital assets
Digital assets do not necessarily have to be Web3 digital assets
The winner of the immersive experience and delivery of the experience will end up deciding on the type of digital asset denomination that the universe will be driven by, which may or may not be on the blockchain
An Open Or A More Restricted And Safe Metaverse?
The idea of managing risk is to reasonably foresee what downsides will come from a particular proposition, opportunity, business, etc.
There are 3 buckets that he looks out for:
Legal issues
Regulatory issues
Ethical or public policy considerations
These individual buckets need to be addressed as completely as possible before they can be passed out into the world
One of the well-known problems in DeFi and crypto is the idea of property on the blockchain:
What is your property?
How do you transfer that property?
How do you record an interest in respect of that property?
This has tied lawyers up in knots
The UK has published a law on it, but it is just one jurisdiction’s perspective
Need ways of thinking about how businesses are to be regulated in the metaverse, the economic models, the type of licensing regime, etc.
Some people play games to make other gamers’ lives miserable. This is known as griefing
Has observed griefing in some of the early iterations of social media-driven metaverses
There’s also social isolation — in Japan, some people get so engaged in an alternate reality that they just isolate themselves from society
The Downside Risks Of The Metaverse
When social media first came out, people did not expect that there would be downsides (e.g. surveillance capitalism, echo chambers, disinformation, etc.)
Have to carry this thinking toward the metaverse as well
His Role At DBS
Has to extrapolate from what he thinks the Web3 business is going to do
Metaverse-driven business models represent economies driven by the economic characteristics of their respective metaverses:
How many assets are created?
How many assets are destroyed?
There will be a future of multiple metaverses
When multiple metaverses interact with each other, it parallels what is happening in the real world where currencies in different jurisdictions interact with each other
DBS is spending a lot of time on the infrastructure for the metaverses
There needs to be economic interoperability — pricing an asset in different metaverses and in physical reality as well
His White Paper
It’s basically an argument around why we need a human-centered view and how a human would exist in the metaverse
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Given that DBS had system failures in recent months and was banned by MAS from making software improvements / venture bets until the issues are solved.
Do you think it will affect the trajectory of the development of this bank metaverse?
I don't think so. Among the 3 local banks, I think they are the only ones doing something related to crypto/metaverse. Personally, though I think their effort/result is quite laughable, but at least they are testing the waters, not letting a possible new trend catching them off guard.
This might even represent a good opportunity to get more of their shares! lol